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Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear? ([personal profile] neigedens) wrote2009-06-23 02:29 am
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basically bones/uhura is the best reboot ship and i have no idea why :D:

So despite the fact that I have Major Issues with how they dealt with Uhura in the movie, I do really like the idea that they're replacing the classic Kirk/Spock/McCoy manlove threesome thing with an OT4. I think [livejournal.com profile] liviapenn talked about it and I think some other people have brought it up.

Thematically, I really love this idea for so many reasons* even though I still really do have some strong reservations about Uhura's role. Sure, she and Bones do both have similar supporting roles and are more crucial to the development of the Spock/Kirk dynamic than they are as characters unto themselves, but I think there's big difference between Uhura, a minority female character who gets promoted from glorified secretary to female love interest and crucial emotional support for one of the major characters, and McCoy, White American Hero who (sort of?) gets demoted to just being the curmudgeonly BFF. I guess I'm less butthurt about him becoming less important than I am about being told that Uhura becoming the Girlfriend means that all of Star Trek's issues with feminism are solved, and that everything is now perfectly equal among the four main characters. I guess if there had been more than one female speaking role who was still alive by the end of the movie I might feel differently.** :/

In related news, I spent, like, 25% of my birthday watching "Amok Time" with Nyssa and loling, so yeah. I'm pretty good. :D

*These reasons mostly are that I could totally see the OT4 backfiring and McCoy and Uhura becoming reluctant bffs who get into lolzy drunken arguments together AND THEN THEY RULE THE WORLD.

**I take this back, I'm just being too pessimistic here. GAILA LIVES.
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2009-06-23 10:27 am (UTC)(link)
Actually, Uhura wasn't just a secretary in TOS; we see her working on translation and tracking transmissions (e.g. in Journey to Babel), and there's an episode where we see her rewiring her console herself. She didn't have a very big part, but it's better than people sometimes say.

[identity profile] neigedens.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I hope it doesn't seem like I'm denigrating TOS!Uhura. I love her like whoa, but I guess my point is that I can love Uhura, both Uhuras, for being kickass and super-competent while still feeling like they still get the short shrift in how they're treated a lot?
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2009-06-23 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, that's true :(

I suppose that's why we have fanfic....

[identity profile] neigedens.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly! The day I discovered what handwaving was was the best day of my life.

[identity profile] cidercupcakes.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
GAILA TOTALLY LIVES AND I REFUSE TO HEAR OTHERWISE.

That said, I guess I'm less butthurt about him becoming less important than I am about being told that Uhura becoming the Girlfriend means that all of Star Trek's issues with feminism are solved, and that everything is now perfectly equal among the four main characters. makes me go "UGH IAWTMFC" a whole lot. Thanks, Trek, the Girlfriend is way better than the Secretary. :\

[identity profile] neigedens.livejournal.com 2009-06-23 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Inorite? It's kind of like, I get maybe it's an improvement over 60's!Uhura, but there's still ways to go. :/